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Installing the RSAT tools on Windows 7 SP1 installations

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We currently have a known issue with the RSAT tools (https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=7d2f6ad7-656b-4313-a005-4e344e43997d&displaylang=en) for Windows 7 SP1 installations.  You will get an error when you attempt to install the tools on integrated SP1 clean installs.  The error is: "The update does not apply to your system".  We know about the issue and will be re-releasing the tools in April for SP1 installations.

In the meantime, a workaround for this issue is to do the following:

  1. Install Windows 7 RTM
  2. Install the RSAT tools
  3. Install Service Pack 1 via the standalone package

NOTE: If you want to attempt to install the RSAT tools on an already existing installation of SP1, see the comments below for some suggestions. From what I can tell people are having mixed results. However, I will say this. If you are going to attempt to workaround the RSAT tools issue by attempting the methods below, please make note of the machines that you do it to. There is a chance that the methods used might break the actual installation of the post SP1 released RSAT tools once they become available in April.  

--Joseph

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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    RSAT hasnt released yes so I'm not sure what you're referring to. I'm assuming this is a dig at SP1 but even then, its quite a reach.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    If thats the case Roel, you'll need to wait until April.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @jones this also doesn't work all times. The solution is the use expand again and extract the CAB. Now use pkgmgr to install the MUM (the neutral, the version which fits to your language and the minilp which fits to your language) files. this works, but the tools are still RTM (hyper-V Manager, so you can't use the new Sp1 features).

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    You have other methods, you can RDP into the machine and administer it from a client if you needed to.  I personally dont disagree with you that the tools could have been available earlier, but to say you have zero options because you didnt have RSAT available isnt valid to me. Or am I missing something?

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Workaround in this case refers to working around the RSAT installation issue.  If you must have them, then yes, its a major rework.  If you didnt already had them but needed them, you have steps to get them.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @Joseph the pkgmgr doesn't work, but I have an idea which I check later. Btw, do you know why an user has has this WU Client version? WUClient-SelfUpdate-Aux~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~7.7.414.0 The user had this version which expired in March 2010, which leads to an Sp1 install failure: social.technet.microsoft.com/.../5c95bd6f-041e-4d68-b19b-304c5162aa27

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @Count;  You're entitled to your opinion but I can tell you from my vantage point that it's not the case.  My RDP comment was meant to show that there are OTHER options for management if you're in need of them.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Glad to see its working manually, it's been hit or miss for people.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @Paul try my guide. I posted some pictures and the commands.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Here is my workaround to install the RSAT on Win 7 Sp1 www.msfn.org/.../index.php

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    @someone. this is only the case for RSAT. Virtual PC installs on Sp1 without any issues. ok, I'll take a look at it with procmon maybe I can see something. I was able to display it in the control panel. Now I look deeper into it. Installing from an integrated ISO makes the workaround impossible.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Well I know why it happens, I guess I shouldnt have said it that way.  It's because of the versioning information on the files.  Why it was decided to do that way, I'm not sure.  Frankly, even if I knew I dont know that I would be stating it <G>

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Editing registry settings is not the proper way to install software.  

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Andre; That's an odd version number.  The only thing I even seen internally (scanning very quickly) is a reference to a SCCM pushed version of WU.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I found a SUPER simple answer to the problem if you've already installed SP1 Open Regedit and broswe to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersion Modify CSDBuildNumber from 1130 to 1 Install the tools and then change the value back to 1130.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Not right now, sorry :(

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Good question, honestly, I have no idea. But I will ask :)

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    "That's an odd version number.  The only thing I even seen internally (scanning very quickly) is a reference to a SCCM pushed version of WU." thanks Joseph.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    to be wait until april no fixes wil work..

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    blogs.technet.com/.../rsat-tools-for-windows-7-service-pack-1.aspx

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    I'm just reporting what I was given, maybe it will get done earlier :)

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Paul, You have to install RSAT prior to updating to Service Pack 1.  If you rebuilt, you should have done Win7 --> RSAT --> SP1.  That keeps the tools in place.

  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
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  • Anonymous
    February 11, 2011
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  • Anonymous
    February 16, 2011
    April? That's a pretty long wait ...

  • Anonymous
    February 16, 2011
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  • Anonymous
    February 18, 2011
    Haven't been able to get the expand/pkgmgr to work.  Fresh install of W7 with SP1.

  • Anonymous
    February 18, 2011
    blogs.technet.com/.../rtm-rsat-and-sp1-win7-shot-over.aspx Says expand/pkgmgr won't work and everyone is stuck till April for an SP1 working release, no workaround at all available. Pretty unacceptable if you ask me.

  • Anonymous
    February 18, 2011
    Seems like administrators have been left out a lot recently.

  • Anonymous
    February 19, 2011
    How hard can it be for a company like Microsoft to quickly develop a SP1 version of the RSAT package?

  • Anonymous
    February 21, 2011
    The expand command does work (give it at least 10 mins and then reboot).  HOWEVER it installs an old version of RSAT which doesn't have the options for dynamic memory, etc, which installing SP1 ontop of RSAT would bring.

  • Anonymous
    February 24, 2011
    I am installing RSAT for Windows 7 ingrated SP1 and having no problems if I install manually. I can;t get it to install from SCCM, but that is another story.

  • Anonymous
    February 25, 2011
    This is a joke..... I already had to reinstall Win 7 because of a single missing driver in the driverstore file repository just to update to SP1 now I can't install the RSAT tools because SP1 is installed...... Great job MS.

  • Anonymous
    February 26, 2011
    April? Really ...  This is unbelievable. 2+ months for this ... amateurs ..

  • Anonymous
    February 27, 2011
    Unfortunately the manual workaround isn't working for me ... Windows 7 Professional x86 SP1 integrated.

  • Anonymous
    February 28, 2011
    Well bad news, I rebuilt the same machine, went to manually install RSAT, and getting the error everyone else is, "The update does not apply to your system".  D'oh ! ! !

  • Anonymous
    March 01, 2011
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  • Anonymous
    March 01, 2011
    Andre, this still didn't work for me. :( Waiting until April by the looks of things. Thankfully my support staff can use Terminal Server sessions

  • Anonymous
    March 02, 2011
    4 Weeks to pick all the files from the sp1 and put them into a single msu. Must be very complicated. They should have stayed with msi....

  • Anonymous
    March 15, 2011
    Alright, time to go on vacation til April :)

  • Anonymous
    March 16, 2011
    Do we have an exact date in April? I am holding up deployment of desktops because I can't manage them. We are still on Server 2003 so this is my only choice.

  • Anonymous
    March 21, 2011
    Just ran into this problem... mayor disappointment...

  • Anonymous
    March 21, 2011
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  • Anonymous
    March 22, 2011
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    March 22, 2011
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  • Anonymous
    March 23, 2011
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  • Anonymous
    March 25, 2011
    Any update on this? Our Administrators are getting frustrated ...

  • Anonymous
    March 28, 2011
    This is totally unacceptable. I service pack my machine before installing any software -- like most anyone should do. Typical Microsoft, but it should NEVER happen this way.

  • Anonymous
    March 30, 2011
    joscon, neither is releasing it without having tested it in real-world scenarios.

  • Anonymous
    March 30, 2011
    Why would that be a reach? MS doesn't feel we actually need to administer our servers for a month and a half?

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    March 30, 2011
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    March 30, 2011
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  • Anonymous
    March 31, 2011
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  • Anonymous
    March 31, 2011
    Oh and I'm sorry if this seems pedantic but, what is described as a workaround is in fact a reworking. As one will only encounter this problem with SP1 installed it is not a workaround to flatten, reload Windows 7 RTM, install RSAT, install SP1, and install all your favourite programs. That is major rework!

  • Anonymous
    March 31, 2011
    Changing "HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersion" "CSDBuildNumber" from 1130 to 1 didn't seem to work.  Still got the error that the package is not compatible...

  • Anonymous
    April 01, 2011
    You know, Enterprise support is "Explicitly" over seas unless you pay big bucks for premium even with an Enterprise agreement. This RSAT issue is inexcusable. Been doing IT for 20 years and can do it all on any platform. At least Novell, LINUX groups, test their stuff for the common compatability issues. "Like admin tools". With support being some overseas clowns reading a script, I may as well use LINUX and do it myself, the right way. (Save myself and customers a few bucks in the process)

  • Anonymous
    April 04, 2011
    It's the 4th of April, any idea when we can expect the working RSAT tools?

  • Anonymous
    April 08, 2011
    Hey guys Microsoft just released RSAT for Windows 7 SP1 (finally)  -->www.microsoft.com/.../details.aspx

  • Anonymous
    April 10, 2011
    Would there be any point to installing "RSAT for Windows 7 SP1" on a Windows 7 RTM machine which was updated to SP1 after the original "RSAT for Windows 7" was installed?  i.e. is there any difference between the tools in the SP1 release of RSAT and those in the original RSAT? and if so, did applying SP1 to the a machine with the original RSAT update RSAT to SP1 as well?  (You'd think this would be an obvious question to see answered in the RSAT SP1 release notes or download page, but nary a word!) Thanks. Jacques.

  • Anonymous
    April 10, 2011
    This article seems to answer my question: support.microsoft.com/.../2517239 Apparently, SP1 updates the original RSAT, so there shouldn't be a need to install the SP1 flavor. J.

  • Anonymous
    April 11, 2011
    RSAT for Windows 7 SP1 has been released!!!  On April 7th 2011 www.microsoft.com/.../details.aspx

  • Anonymous
    April 11, 2011
    I have tried installing the new release of the RSAT tools on my Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 machine and I get the same error as I did with the previous RSAT tools.  Has anyone else had this problem?

  • Anonymous
    April 11, 2011
    someone tell Microsoft to be reasanble.... this is really annoying

  • Anonymous
    April 12, 2011
    Just downloaded and installed the new version. Worked Perfectly!

  • Anonymous
    April 12, 2011
    Responding to my previous message about how I could not get the new tools to work; I found a weird reason why.  I was trying to run the package from the network, I happened to copy the package to my local machine and the tools install no problem.  Not sure why that would be because I can't imagine running the package would disconnect my network connection in any way.  I thought I would share that.

  • Anonymous
    May 10, 2011
    RSAT for SP1 blogs.technet.com/.../rsat-tools-for-windows-7-sp1-released.aspx