IE8 Beta Feedback

Article
03/05/2008

It’s exciting when we have a new beta to release! The launch of IE8 developer beta is a huge milestone, and we have set up various mechanisms to collect feedback. Before I list out all of our feedback channels for IE8 betas, I want to explain what we learned from our experience with IE7 feedback.

We were thrilled but a little overwhelmed by the amount of input we got in IE7. Frankly, we couldn’t keep up and really do a good job handling the free-form bug entries. So we want to try something new for IE8. We’ve asked our best bug finders from IE7 and other Microsoft beta programs to handle the bug reporting. (Note: We’ll keep evaluating our invite list and add promising new people as we find them -- and removing ones who aren’t delivering).

Everyone will be able to see the bugs they enter and vote on the ones they think are most important. There are instructions how to do this at the end of this blog.

We also have built ways to help us collect feedback in automated ways from everyone. Some of these are technologies you’re probably familiar with like the Customer Experience Improvement Program, which gives us real world usage data like “how many times people click the back button in a session,” and information when IE crashes or hangs. We have also added a new tool called “Report a Webpage Problem…” to help report website compatibility issues.

So here is the more detailed listing of our feedback channels:

IE8 Technical Beta - We are inviting a group of beta testers from around the world to do beta testing of IE8 and provide us with bugs. These beta testers commit to spending time with IE8 betas and file bugs when they observe unexpected behaviors. The IE team will be evaluating this set of bugs, looking for the most impactful bugs to all of our users.
Public Votes on IE8 Technical Beta bugs – We want to be transparent about the bugs reported by our beta testers, therefore the bug database for the IE8 Technical beta will be available for everyone to view and vote on issues. , You can sign up here: https://connect.microsoft.com to view the Internet Explorer 8 Technical Beta program. (Note: registration on the Microsoft Connect site is required.)
Report a Webpage Problem Tool - We have released another tool to help us capture website compatibility issues. The Report a Webpage Problem is a control that can be downloaded and installed in IE8. When you encounter a site that is not rendering correctly, you can submit a report. We use these compatibility reports to populate our compatibility test suite with real site issues seen by users around the world.
Automated Customer Feedback – Internet Explorer uses an automated system to collect real-world data about the causes of customers' pain—primarily about crashes and hangs, as well as data that gives us a picture of how IE8 is being used in the real world. The IE8 betas will be opted in by default to Customer Experience Improvement Program, so we can use this automated data to inform us on issues that are affecting beta customers at large.
IE Beta Newsgroup – This new newsgroup is the all-in-one place to discuss items about IE8 betas. Our Microsoft MVPs and IE team members will monitor this newsgroup.

So, what do you do if you believe you have an issue that the IE team needs to know about? Here are the steps we encourage you to take:

Read the IE8 Release notes – we try to outline most of the known issues in this document at the time of release.
Visit the Internet Explorer 8 Technical Beta program on Connect (https://connect.microsoft.com) and view bugs in the database. Note: you must register on the Microsoft Connect to search for your issue
If you find your issue, please rate it (vote for it). This will help us understand how many people find this issue important
If you don’t find your issue, you can visit the IE beta newsgroup and post your issue there. Members of the technical beta will be monitoring this newsgroup and can file a bug about the issue on your behalf in the technical beta

If you want to request being added to the IE Technical Beta, you can send email to: IESO@microsoft.com, Subject: Apply for IE Tech Beta, and tell us why you are a great beta tester. There is a limit to the number of people we will add, so if you don’t make it in, please follow our guidelines above when you encounter issues.

Thanks and happy beta!

Kellie Eickmeyer
Lead Program Manager

[Update: Release Notes link updated]

Comments

Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Honestly, we're not sure yet what we'll do with the bug tracking after RTM. We want to make sure that any feedback channels we have that we keep alive are ones we can continue to respond to, so we'll see how well the system works before we decide. We've definitely heard the feedback that people want us to keep it alive.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Looks like the first beta of IE8 has just been announced . Download it here . There's a fact sheet too
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Hey IE Team, I just installed IE8... very impressed so far! Just some observations:

Favorites Bar... when you hover over multiple folders on the favorites bar, you shouldn't have to click each folder to make them drop down... hovering should be sufficient if you've clicked on a folder already.
What is the "grayed out" effect of web addresses meant to serve?
When you use the "Add to Favorites" option within the Favorites menu, it would be more intuitive if it were like the "Pin to Start Menu" option rather than duplicating the folder.
Not sure if it was possible in IE7, but very awesome on changing the View for the History listing!
Love the "Activities" option and can't wait to see more!
WebSlices are a cool idea, so again I can't wait to see more!
Crash recovery seems to be working well too... I've had it crash twice, but always at times where I was mucking about with a lot of things at once.
Please give us a Download Manager!
NICE!!! at the bold RSS Feeds that are unread. Performance does seem pretty decent so far, so I look forward to seeing the progression to the final product. I'm sure I'll post more things as I continue to play.

Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
GoodThings2Life, Thanks! Re: web addresses, we'll blog more about that later too, but briefly, we highlight the domain name and dim everything else back to help users know where they are on the web. A common ploy for phishing attacks is to spoof the URL so it looks like a legit domain; this feature makes those kinds of attacks more difficult.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
The release notes link does not work (redirects to http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=gp;[ln];kberror&style=error&errurl=%2fdefault.aspx%2fkb%2f949800 )
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Thanks, Rag. We're checking on it now.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Wait... you want to say there's now TWO iexplore.exe's MIRRORING EACH OTHER?! I thought even dirtiest malware stopped using tactic long time ago... 0_o
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
"Real browsers work on any platform" - adding W2K could help you to find obscure issues with seriously limited memory and bandwidth. Just an idea.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Nice beta, but I already found something: The text selection tool is very buggy. Examples: If you select some text and drag the cursor over some whitespace the selection is inversed. If you select some text with list elements (e.g the article on this page) the elements disappear (or is this a feature?) Text selection is generally slowish and flickers. Anyways, can't wait for the final
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Just wanted to congratulate you guys on this beta release. Time to make a fine browser - together! Keet it up! ~
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Hi, I just fixed the link to the release notes. Thanks for letting us know.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Hi, I just fixed the link to the release notes. Thanks for letting us know.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Kay, text selection and editing are definitely works in progress in the new engine.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Great work guys, I'll bet you $100 that Mozilla rips the domain syntax coloring.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
John: ALT-D moves to the address bar like you want. In all the versions of IE I remember and in Firefox.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
To the IE Team: The other Acid2 site came back up, so when I attempted to test it with IE8 Beta 1, the face does render correctly, but highlighting the nose makes it turn blue. Is that supposed to happen or no?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Very impressive guys. While IE7 was an OK release (I did like the streamlined UI), IE8 really looks promising already. I noticed how Activities has been something you've guys developed for a long time. :) http://labs.live.com/Entity+Extraction.aspx And all the other latest goodies sound awesome too. But I'm still waiting to hear:

Skins support
Easier to make add-ons
Support for other OS's
Fancier looking zoom control (like Office 07')
Rendering on mobile devices (WinMo?)
Live "Tab" Thumbnails
Most of the goodies that's been available in IE7 Pro for a long time already.
Tabbing history.
Better inline search
View web page source code. Still waiting. Keep up on the good work guys.

Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
@sonicdoommario: Yes, the "blue" nose is a feature of the test.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
@sonicdoommario: Yes, the "blue" nose is a feature of the test.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Hey IE team,seems that IE* has problems with 3 of my most frequently visited sites: Neowin http://www.neowin.net/ El tiempo http://www.eltiempo.com/ and Facebook fo course http://es.facebook.com/ Good luck fixing this,but i see that it's a width issue.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
why IE8 doesn't turn to standarts mode when xml proglog + xhtml 1.1 ?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
The nose is supposed to turn blue on hover to pass the test.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008

application/xhtml+xml still not accepted
acid2 test works on http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html but not on http://acid2.acidtests.org/ (firefox 3 pass it on both)

Anonymous
March 05, 2008
What happend to the option to Open tabs when IE starts again when you go to close it with open tabs? I loved that option in IE7, but it seems to be gone in IE8 now.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
AlexGL, the issue's been fixed. I disabled the add-on after getting IE8 started without any add-ons present, and it works fine.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Is there on easy way to switch the version targeting on website that IE8 break? I mean if you don't have any control on the website. I would like to see how much it can help. If there's no option in IE8 for thatr, how can I can do that with something like the Fiddler.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Looks good so far. Just curious. Are there any news regarding JavaScript events (e.g. addEventListener, capturing phase, domready, ...)? What's about things like getComputedStyle? HTML5 activeElement would also be great for web applications. And yes, as mentioned somewhere above. PNG gamma correction is a must. Also in IE7, it was not possible to combine CSS filters e.g. grey() with PNG images. Same effects like using AlphaImageLoader in IE6 before. Any news on this? Anything planned for the final?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Am I the only person interested in knowing why we can't write add-ons for Internet Explorer in .Net yet? It's 2008, I figured (incorrectly) that this would have been remedied years ago. Any target date/version for this ability?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Why is there a horizontal scrollbar on every single page I visit? That is really annoying. Also I tried out the meta switch at that works really slick. I will be using that on my site from now on until I can get the site working properly in IE8. Oh also yahoo mail sniffs out the browser and rejects me from using IE8.....you might want to contact them, i mean they only have millions of users.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Just wondering where a Weather WebSlice is available at ... thank you.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Is side by side install available or will we have to go thru the Virtual PC process to run side by side installs. The beta of the "other" browser installs side by side without issue.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Would be great if tabs can be moved in "quick tabs" view...
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March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
At first review, compat with our products looks refreshingly free of significant issues. THANK you. An update to Windows Update to recognise this beta would be useful.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
@Marshall aria-* properties are new properties that allow the author to provide accessibility information. More info at http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/aria.php
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
@Dinoboff: If you want to do this on only one site You can do this by use the IE Developer Tools. Enable the developer tools by clocking on the button in the toolbar. Click on View->Change Compatability Mode and choose IE7 mode
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
In IE7 there was some weird behaviour with the cursor which would almost always display the text icon even where the cursor wasn't near any text, is that why the text cursor has been 'removed' in IE8?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Loving what I am seeing in IE8. The favorites bar available in full screen mode - awesome thank you!!!! I can finally use full screen mode! Launching an entire folder from the favorites bar - again another request of mine making my life soooo much easier! The new "blank tab" appearance -> Very nice, it actually has a finished look now. Now I just have to figure out why Ctrl-Alt-Del's page doesn't render right so I can tell the right person the right thing. Works fine in IE7 emulation mode tho (which is also a nice new feature) I'm liking IE8...
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
I'm having problems with the positioning of background images on anchor elements. It worked previously in IE6, IE7, Firefox, Opera, and Safari. I'm at a loss. It has to be something different with IE8. I'm using a valid doctype as well.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
I'm impressed with the direction you guys are going. Great work so far. REQUEST: Can you include subdomains in the address bar highlighting? A lot of sites include the subdomain as part of the site's branding ( for example: del.icio.us, script.aculo.us... )
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Seems to be some funky floating div handling at http://menshealthliving.com/ and http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/03/04 and the emulate IE7 button doesn't seem to force emulation here lol
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
You guys are awesome. I surprised at how fast IE8 beta was released. One feature that I had asked for when IE7 was released was the ability to middle click on the folders that are included in the Links toolbar and have them open in tabs. You guys FINALLY added this and I thank you! I've always been an IE fan and will continue to do so. You guys are great!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Woo Hoo! Double Clicking in the address bar ACTUALLY WORKS NOW! It correctly selects JUST that fragment! Yahoo!
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
...but with compliments come complaints... The developer tools still return (as does .innerHTML) DOM markup in horrible UPPERCASE Tag Soup with quoteless (and misssing) attributes! I thought IE8 was the release where the DOM was finally fixed?!
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Please check http://color.org/version4html.xalter Safari3Beta: Pass Firefox3Beta3: When about:config gfx.color_management.enabled = true, Pass IE8Beta1: Fail ...and... Can I disale [7] tool button ?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Great job so far. Thanks for really taking the time to listen to the community.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
All my favorites do not work anymore. I can not use them and if i import them to another browser they are empty but i can see them in IE. How can i uninstall the IE 8? How can i rescue my favorites???? HELP
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Any chance of getting all betas as a virtual image a la the IE 6 image? I don't have a spare license running around and I'd hate to trash my IE7 to test IE8.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
i'd like to see the text on the favorites button change to reflect the tab that's selected. so, if the feeds tab is selected, the button would show feeds, instead of always showing favorites.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Ooops, sorry. There appears to be one in the same place as the IE6 and IE7 images. For anyone else looking, it's at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en It's a 438.6 MByte download with no bittorrent download :-)
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
How many people are in the "IE8 Technical Beta" program? I checked out the site, and there are only 50 bugs entered so far. There is definitely lots fixed in IE8 (more than I was expecting) but there are still several bugs from IE7 and before not listed.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Gmail "Send" and "Save now" button makes IE8 crash on Vista
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Is there anyway to get rid of the "Emulate IE7" icon from the command bar? Or at least move it to the opposite end of the menu so I can hide it? All the other commands appear to be movable/removable, why isn't it? Thanks.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
"Your microsoft connect site is a poor excuse for a bug reporting tool." If there is one thing MS are doing very very badly it is this... I respect the IE team for wanting to get this right but they have not learned the most important lesson from IE7. Please IE team, get a decent bug reporting system up and running ASAP, this ms connect system is as useless as trying to keep track of bugs on a roll of toilet paper with a leaky pen in a hurricane. There are plenty of "very good" open source options for tracking bugs, swallow your pride and do yourselves a favour, track bugs properly. Apart from that its nice to get my hands on the browser, so far I can see CSS hasn't been fully implemented, I'd suggest this should be a priority before beta 2, there goes 50% of the bug reports right there.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
@lithven, @ST: No, the "Emulate IE7" button cannot be removed or moved in IE7 Beta 1. Configuration of this button will be added in future updates. @Will Peavy: Stay tuned to the IEBlog for more info about why domain highlighting works the way it does. @Neal: Yes, Yahoo is aware of their user-agent string issue, and they will address it. @jessejacob: You've been able to write IE extensions in .NET since .NET 1.1/IE6 or earlier. See http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/dev.asp for some sample links. @Marshall: Check out http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288472(VS.85).aspx for more info on what's new in IE8 for developers.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Question: Why is application/xhtml+xml still not accepted? Why is SVG still not accepted?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
One thing that bothers me are two CSS "errors" I've found that can affect a lot of websites. The first one regardin negative margins and floats; the second and, I think, the most critical one, regarding links with display: block and parent divs. Long story short: the first one (negative-margins) is something like: if you have two blocks floating besides each other, then a clearing div below them, but have one of the divs get a negative-margin greater than it's own width which makes it overlap above the other div, the clearing div ignores the div with the negative margin applied; but if the negative margin is less than it's own width, the footer div clears it properly. The second one involves anchors with display: block on them. If you set an anchor to 100px width, 100px height, display: block and a border, then put the anchor inside a div, the area of the anchor that has no text nor border is NOT clickable... but if it's out of the div, it is. position: relative on either the container div or the anchor itself seems to fix this. I've described and fixed both problems in my blog (http://metalize.liveonstyle.com/2008/03/06/errores-del-ie8-parte-2/) but it's something that should not happen to begin with (having to add position: relative to a link in order for it to be clickable is just unnecessary in my opinion). You can see both problems here: http://sausage.rolled.at/articles Negative Margin and float problem http://metalize.liveonstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ie-error-links.html link problem showed (try to pass your mouse cursor over here: http://metalize.liveonstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/zona-error-link.gif ) http://metalize.liveonstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ie-error-links-fixed.html link problem fixed
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Because version of the browser is checked, with IE8, application of the patch cannot be executed in the home page of Windows Update. Please,fix.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
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Anonymous
March 05, 2008
It seems that getting the location of a DOM element does not work (at least the ASP.NET Ajax code): http://www.asp.net/AJAX/AjaxControlToolkit/Samples/AutoComplete/AutoComplete.aspx
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
We want trying to be able to set the setting of the operational mode of IE, per the TAB window. When opening many TAB windows, because it restarts in order to change to the mode of IE7, it is inconvenient.
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
I got problem with many web pages like google maps or similar mapy.cz - i believe this problem is because theese pages thing that I have stupid old IE rendering so when I switch to IE7 mode it works OK as they got this hacked. The problem is, that this switching need restarting of IE, and this is the reason why i cannot use it as most of the webs are in IE8 mode problematic, and i'm not going to support IE 7 mode. I wondered how to solve it, it will not be easy, but i would prefer to change the user agent info (and other common ways of browser detection), so it will mask as other browser, so that it can fully show its compatibility with standards without beeing afected by that ones who use e.g. conditional comments for IE => 7
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Windows XP x64 SP2: The first level drop down menues (like page and tools) don't show any text. The IE7 emulation does not seem to work... Why no uninstall?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Bring the "Open these the next time" option back when closeing IE8 with tabs open PLEASE!!! I always had 7-8 tabs open in IE7 when for some reason i'd have to close it. That option helps ALOT! And now in IE8b1 I can't see it and it seems like it's gone, why?
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Eli said: "Great work guys, I'll bet you $100 that Mozilla rips the domain syntax coloring." On the contrary, Firefox 3 had this feature during the alphas (last year) but it was removed shortly after. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388135#c40
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Hi there! Awesome work you've done. I found some strange CSS problem:

using together the writing-mode: tb-rl; and overflow: auto; properties make the content disappear.
in some cases the header counter breaks. I found that this problem is comes up when the :before and :after is set on an other element and placed somewhere after the first <h1> element. CSS: h1 { counter-increment: chapter; counter-reset: section -1; } h2 {counter-increment: section;} h1:before {content: "Chapter " counter(chapter) ". ";} h2:before {content: "Section " counter(chapter) "." counter(section) " ";} span:before, span:after{content:'"';} Cases: a) this works well: <span>Lorem ipsum</span> <h1>First Chapter</h1> <h1>Second Chapter</h1> <h2>First Section of Second Chapter</h2> <h2>Second Section of Second Chapter</h2> <h1>Third Chapter</h1> <h2>First Section of Third Chapter</h2> b) counter breaks after first: <h1>First Chapter</h1> <span>Lorem ipsum</span> <h1>Second Chapter</h1> <h2>First Section of Second Chapter</h2> <h2>Second Section of Second Chapter</h2> <h1>Third Chapter</h1> <h2>First Section of Third Chapter</h2> c) counter breaks after second: <h1>First Chapter</h1> <h1>Second Chapter</h1> <span>Lorem ipsum</span> <h2>First Section of Second Chapter</h2> <h2>Second Section of Second Chapter</h2> <h1>Third Chapter</h1> <h2>First Section of Third Chapter</h2> d) etc... :) e) Without the span:before, span:after{content:'"';} css property, all cases pass. f) If we use this <span> before we start counting, the counter won't breaks even if we place another <span> after the first <h1> element. So this works well: <span>Lorem ipsum</span> <h1>First Chapter</h1> <h1>Second Chapter</h1> <span>Lorem ipsum</span> <h2>First Section of Second Chapter</h2> <h2>Second Section of Second Chapter</h2> <h1>Third Chapter</h1> <h2>First Section of Third Chapter</h2>

wishlist:

support <q> element :)
support type="application/x-javascript"
support border-radius, column-count, column-width, column-gap please please please! Atta boys and girls!

Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Negative:

Those dashed border lines around clicked href's which firefox has and we all hate them. They are also off in some links, like there is minus offset to the actual link.
Text selection is somehow buggy, and get's inverted for no reason.
Weird behaviour with floating div's, refreshing results in different positioning. Positive:
Well havent used it enough yet to find anything positive :) Seems a bit scary how many websites are buggy with IE8, designers will have their work cut out for them! :)

Anonymous
March 05, 2008
I can't view any webpage after install ie8 ...
Anonymous
March 05, 2008
Very impressed with the beta - thanks! My request: Allow selected aspects of browsing hisory to be deleted when the browser closes. Firefox allows all cookies to be accepted, then deletes them on exit. For me, and I dare say most others, this is ideal. It allows privacy without breaking certain sites.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
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Anonymous
March 06, 2008
'Always use ClearType for HTML' says you need to restart Internet Explorer. This is no longer needed I noticed.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Having to restart a system on a browser installation is wrong, totally wrong...
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
With sp3 bld. 3300 installed there are permanent problems. So I uninstalled IE 8 again.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Unfortunately...I could not even get IE8 to open fully without "IE8 has stopped working" error message...
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Please, fix that. It's probably one of the most important issues, at least for me.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Most of the DOCTYPEs give a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom, even when it it is not needed.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
When a new tab is opened: The Address shows "about:Tabs". a.) This Looks Dumb b.) It isn't pre-selected, so when you type, you end up prefixing it rather than replacing it - Bug! c.) "You've opened a new tab" in 500% size font is NOT required, and after the very first time seeing this, is INSULTING. We've been opening new tabs for years! (well, in other browsers at least) Thanks.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
What exactly triggers (e.g. where is the list) the fallback to Quirks mode from Standards in IE8? I have a site, that rendered just fine in standards mode in IE7, that now triggers Quirks. a.) It has a valid Doctype b.) The HTML markup is well-formed (XSL generated) c.) No references to document.all or other legacy IE-only JS This is rather frustration because the rest of the site works fine, it is just 1 or 2 pages that fail. Thanks.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
In IE8, clicking the favorites star crashes the program. I tried doing a system restore to a point before installation and IE7 will not work. This is with XP
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
have been using it for a day now and our site http://www.thomasnet.com does not render correctly I know for sure. Other than a slew of sites not displaying properly, no major problems as of yet
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Can't wait for you to re-enable the "Open these tabs next time I load Internet Explorer" feature. Also, along with this feature, Opera does an excellent job with this. When you open up Opera again, not only do you get all of your previous tabs, but you also still retain the history from your last browser session. You can hit the back button and go to a previously viewed page from the last time you used Opera. Brilliant!
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
The Windows Update site does not recognize this IE8 beta.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
@Jeff: Did you try starting IE8 without addons? http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/troubleshoot.asp In particular, see if you have an add-on called "DriveLetterAccess" enabled. @Stanley, do you have the URL? Or can you send us a capture (www.fiddlercap.com)? @Nick Lowe: Stay tuned to the IEBlog for more information about why domain highlighting behaves this way.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
For the favorites bar, I believe it would be better to separate the favorites drop down and add to favorites icons/buttons onto another section of the page. I personally like it where it's at right now in IE7. I use the favorites toolbar profusely each and every day and the more real estate I can have, the better. Also, there is a weird problem with IE8 and Outlook Express 6. I change the actual default read and compose fonts from Arial to Verdana, size 9 or "smaller." In doing so, with IE7, every message via the newsgroups that comes through is displayed in the font Verdana, size 9. Upon installing IE8, immediately I see changes in the font that is displayed within Outlook Express 6. It is no longer Verdana. It overrides my own setting and changes the font to Times New Roman, size 12. I have many more bugs. I am asking to be put into the technical beta so I can submit some of these valid bugs that I am finding. Please consider me!
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
@John: Yes, WindowsUpdate is updating their site to support IE8. For now, click the Emulate IE7 Button, restart all IE windows, and visit WU. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
I have some "autocomplete" like widgets that float a DIV absolutely above a page. This still works in IE8B1, but when I mouseover the DIV, the onmouseover event is triggered on TEXTAREA elements underneath my floating DIV (with 100% opacity, background-color: #ffffff;) Note, it does not happen on INPUT type="text" elements that lie under the DIV (even though they have the same onmouseover event handlers applied. I should also note, that it only occurs where whitespace around the nodes in the DIV occur. Thus links, and spans of text in the DIV will not trigger the event, but in the whitespace (margin) between elements it does trigger the event. I wonder if the fix for Bug 229: http://webbugtrack.blogspot.com/2008/02/bug-229-not-everything-is-absolute-in.html Accidentally exposed (e.g. propagated) additional events to the underlying elements. PS I would file a proper bug report on Connect and all that, but I have yet to be granted permission to submit bugs. TIA
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March 06, 2008
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March 06, 2008
When you select some text in a webpage, the green arrow for Activities appears. Well, it does so in some webpages. What makes the arrow appear/disappear?
Anonymous
March 06, 2008

Correction on that bug report... it does happen on INPUT type="text" elements too, it is just a bit harder to trigger.

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March 06, 2008
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Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Rather than limit new bug-reports and feature requests to a select few individuals, why not at accepts reports from other individuals, and make those available either to everyone or to the invited testers to make use of/rate?
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Has anyone checked the rendering with right-to-left sites? IE8 standards mode completely fails to render right-to-left sites. Right alignment sometimes ignored, positioned elements do not appear where they should, floats disappear, etc.... Some text shows squares although the encoding is correct. I use XHTML 1.0 Transitional and IE8 VPC image.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Does not render page just the back ground http://wiki.ie7pro.com/index.php/Main_Page
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
Most of the forums on the internet that I visit regularly --- whenever I scrow using the mouse's scrow wheel and my arrow touches a live link, IE8 Beta 1 will automatically goes to the top of the webpage.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
First of all, congrats. IE8 Beta 1 got a serious problems with Arabic text while it doesn't seems to be rendering CSS direction: rtl; at all. i am working on new Arabic/English site and english version is excellent on IE8. are still working on this? and by the way your Problems report tool is't working with me. http://www.aelsharif.com/ (test domain)
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
The DPI model has changed!! IE8 scales all the images to the DPI settings of Windows. This is undesired, DPI until now was only applied to the fonts, this was OK because that way one could make text easy to read (nowadays displays have too small pixels!) without distorting the images. Is this a bug or is this gonna stay like this? If so is there any workaround or way to get the old behavior? See screenshot and explanation here: http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/222/ie8bemz3.png
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March 06, 2008
Another bug with CSS background images. I have a DIV, with a background image (top left, no-repeat)... with padding-left to offset the text content away from the "watermark" image. This works fine (in IE6,7,8B1) However, in IE8B1, when I select the text inside the DIV, the CSS background-image is re-applied (additional) to my selection background, with a new origin at the origin of my text selection. Again, I would file a bug report, but have thus far been declined an invitation.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
On Vista x64 SP1, after installing IE8 the fonts chosen in Windows Mail are no longer respected. When reading newsgroups, the font is always Times New Roman, regardless of the font chosen in the Tools->Options->Read->Fonts. I have always set this to Verdana, but now the font is locked to Times New Roman and cannot be changed. Not a big deal, but I hate reading in TNR.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
I second the question of javascript events from Sebastian Werner. I was under the impression that the standard would be implemented in IE 8 (at least many of the comments during the development of IE 7 lead me to think that). Considering the direction towards standards by default that IE 8 is taking, I think it is imperative that it also support the standard event model. Can you please provide some idea of which IE 8 beta will deliver the standard event model for javascript? As a wishlist item: How hard would it be for IE to use the Webkit engine? If we (the web development community) could coalesce around a single rendering engine and build as fancy a wrapper as you desire, it would obviously go a very long way toward interoperability. Just imagine IE, Firefox and Safari all having an option to use the same rendering engine with all of the development resources enhancing it instead of everyone duplicating the effort.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
@Mohammed: As noted in reply to your other posting, RTL is not yet implemented in standards mode. We're still working on it. @John: The scrolling bug is known. We're working on it.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
I just installed IE8 Beta and have problem with accessing this webpage www.aftenposten.no (Norwegian newspaper). Every time I try to access this webpage IE8 crashes and gives the error message "Internet Explorer not responding". I even tried to disable all add ons to no avail....same problem. Uninstall..reinstall IE8...nothing works. Same problem. Anyone here with the same problem? Solution anyone?
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
I just installed IE8 Beta and have problem with accessing this webpage www.aftenposten.no (Norwegian newspaper). Every time I try to access this webpage IE8 crashes and gives the error message "Internet Explorer not responding". I even tried to disable all add ons to no avail....same problem. Uninstall..reinstall IE8...nothing works. Same problem. Anyone here with the same problem? Solution anyone?
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
@Geir M I just tried to open www.aftenposten.no, and it loads fine for me.
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
hi again this one is little strange the menus in offical Microsoft are all messed up is it some plugin i am missing it was workign in IE7 every link goes back to http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx and then evey menu is blank and atleast in FF3 its atleast rending it as a page sandy
Anonymous
March 06, 2008
I have found issues regarding IE8, but seeing that most of it are already discussed, I don't think I need to mention it. Let me mention this one again though: It's such a memory hog!! I found one VERY nice feature that you improved though: the search (ctrl+f) function. Before, when I type a keyword and I'm already searching through the middle pages, and I click the page to scroll (review) it a bit then go back to Find and click next, it will start from the top! This is so frustating when there are many instances of the keyword you are searching in that page. I'm happy to see in IE8 that the moment you click next after reviewing (scrolling the page, selecting texts, etc...), it will start from where it left off. Nice! Thanks.
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March 06, 2008
Pfft, not impressed. IE8B1 crashes when trying to access http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905066.aspx Google Toolbar, lastest available download. Garbage Vista Home Premium. An error has occurred in the Google Toolbar. Internet Explorer will close. Location the error gives to find the dump file is empty. I like my Google toolbar ... this needs to be fixed.
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March 07, 2008
I agree with pretty much everything above. Also the dropdown's and text inputs look horrible! They were decent in IE7, are the "new ones" temporary or will they actually look so bad in the final release? I also noticed that checkboxes and radio's dont have margin anymore. The same old search is a big disappointment, just not as near practical as it should be! Good job with everything else, and for hearing our comments!
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
Now that the dev preview beta of Internet Explorer 8 is out, you may notice some bugs here and there
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March 07, 2008
Css powered icons as per this article doesnt work in ie8 on any site making use of em. http://www.askthecssguy.com/2006/12/showing_hyperlink_cues_with_cs_1.html http://www.ultrashock.com/ is one of many sites having trouble with ie8 and css icons. Nice work otherwise with ie8, feels like a nice step forward.
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
I'm quite impressed with IE8b1, especially with the page zooming now working properly. There is however one thing I'd like to request:

Add a shortcut key to reset zooming to 100%. Most browsers use Ctrl+0 (the number zero) here, and I think it would also be appropriate for IE.

Anonymous
March 07, 2008
i think Microsoft is making IE8 standards mode not work on purpose to then say "see, we should have defaulted to IE7 standards mode." Nice try guys, but we ain't buying it. Make it work already.
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
@MPZ: CTRL+0 to reset the zoom to 100% has been supported since IE7.
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
jun, your conspiracy theory doesn't even make sense. why not consider the far more likely case... they turned on standards mode by default, saw how much broke, and only THEN decided to make IE7 the default?
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
I installed IE8 beta yesterday, its perfoming really good (I am thinking about swithching back to IE from FF). some sites did work well: Gmail chat : wouldn't load (reminded me of Safari) - I hope this will be fixed. some ADP internal site didn't work.
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
I've tried IE 8 for a little while now. Seems okay. Hotmail doesn't seem to work though; it hangs after I login. music.yahoo.com also doesn't act properly (rendering issues). IE also seems to use more memory now (though as a beta, I suppose that's not out of the ordinary). I like the auto-recover feature especially. Feature request for Beta 2: incremental find (like in Firefox). Incremental find and Firefox 2.x's (non-automatic) recovery feature are the two main reasons that I stopped using IE for most purposes.
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March 07, 2008
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March 07, 2008
Is it true that application/xhtml+xml still doesn't work? I didn't have the chance to test it yet... If so, then please fix this. This should take only a minimum amount of time! Also please make submitting bugs easier. And thank you again for the great work so far!
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
Do a google search on MSFT, and then press any of the financial websites (google finance, yahoo finance, MSN money...) --- the webpage link (such as http://moneycentral.msn.com/scripts/webquote.dll?ipage=qd&Symbol=MSFT) will show up on the IR8's search pine.
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March 07, 2008
whenever I try to open the favorites, IE8 crashes... Also Dr. Watson Postmortem Debugger, so I have to log out and back in again Otherwise, its great! might want to improve the looks, but acessibility is more important
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
I still need one thing, for IE Developer Tools to be superior to the FireBug add-in to FireFox... A Console where you can monitor all HTTP Requests/Responses sent back and forth. This is a huge pain when dealing with big AJAX apps. You need to monitor the requests inside the browser.
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
March 6th,2008 Ourdayhasfinally come.CSScodersgotsomelovewithInternetExplorer7-us...
Anonymous
March 07, 2008
Ummmm - MAJOR PROBLEM ie8 (vista 32bit edition) crashes every time i rightclick... i guess this isnt supposed to happen... and now i'm stuck on mff till it getz fixed!! PLEASE FIX SOON!!!!
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March 08, 2008
Asking people to install virtual machines to test different browser versions just makes it costly for us to do properly. I already have one machine for testing IE6 and another for Firefox, IE7, Firefox and Safari. There's no way I'm setting up yet another for IE8, at least until I'm forced to, and I'm not a big fan of being forced to do stuff by monopolists. The real reason that it's like this is so that Microsoft can claim it's impossible to remove IE from Windows. The practicality of it is that it makes everyone else's lives a nightmare. Come on guys, there's no non-monopolistic reason for not making browser versions able to install into seperate directories and run side-by-side on the same PC. When I can test at least IE7 and 8 on the same machine, maybe then I'll be happy to help test IE8. If everyone took this stand you'd be forced to do it yourself -- maybe then the costs would force a rethink about forcing stuff on people.
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March 09, 2008
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March 09, 2008
Asimov wrote: "Asking people to install virtual machines to test different browser versions just makes it costly for us to do properly." Microsoft is providing free virtualization software (http://tinyurl.com/2jr7a7) and free virtual hard drive images (http://tinyurl.com/y64upm) for testing. How exactly is this costly for you? It's not even particularly time consuming.
Anonymous
March 09, 2008
IE 8 looks great. But found a few issues, hope this may help I am trying to use the Emulate IE7 as some of the pages I was trying to visit were broken. Identified 3 important issues.

When I use the vertical scroll bar it comes down but again it goes on to the top. It happens randomly
When I use favorites it crashes my IE
I think still it has some issues displaying CSS based sites. The width and the height are a bit abnormal to what I see with Ie7. The Emulate IE7 doesnt work exactly as its expected to work(I still happen to see the same way as I see some sites on IE8). Whereas while using IE7 they rendered properly.

Anonymous
March 09, 2008
[quote] IE unfortunately has no way to distinguish between these two different uses reliably. Google could avoid this problem by using a different URL parameter name when tracking you. [/quote] Errrm; isn't it a little arrogant of MSFT to suggest that other websites should change the way they do things in order to fix a problem in a MSFT product?! I realise you guys see Google as a major competitor, but this sort of arrogance results in your customers being caught in the cross-fire. No; I think you need to fix the issue in your product. BTW: Don't take this as a 'flame', I'm actually really glad that MSFT are acting to get IE standards compliant - keep up the good work.
Anonymous
March 10, 2008
WE ARE ALL STILL WAITING FOR AN INVITE TO SUBMIT BUGS! WAY TO BE TRANSPARENT AND PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY!
Anonymous
March 10, 2008
Firefox users always brag about the number of extensions freely available. Why doesn't Microsoft sponsor contest(s) for the best FREE extensions with some worthwhile cash prizes? You'll throw $200 mil into facebook, why not spend a few hundred grand to create more reasons for people to use IE? It's a win-win situation for everyone. I would liked to have see the ability to drag a link to an existing tab :/ Opening a new tab is fairly slow and you have to open sidebar again in new tab (I keep sidebar open with Onfolio or other things sometimes). This is one of the things I really like in Firefox. Thank you.
Anonymous
March 10, 2008
@SimonL: It would be great if there were a reliable solution that we could undertake on our own. Unfortunately, the only real alternative to the current heuristic is to invent a proprietary new tag that would allow a page to indicate "hey, this is a search field."
Anonymous
March 10, 2008
For the Internet Explorer 8 Beta, we’ve added an Emulate IE7 button to the command bar. It will help
Anonymous
March 10, 2008
Please note that google maps does not display proprly in Internet Explorer 8 Beta http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116752431556989638940.000448163c81103fc2978&ll=43.687736,-79.646759&spn=0.249255,0.457306&z=11
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Anonymous
March 11, 2008
When I use IE8, I can not open mailbox, what's wrong?
Anonymous
March 11, 2008
its ok but the canvas object support needs to be better
Anonymous
March 11, 2008
Hey everyone, Christopher here. It’s been a while since I’ve blogged anything here (over a year in fact).
Anonymous
March 11, 2008
Hey everyone, Christopher here. It’s been a while since I’ve blogged anything here (over a year in fact
Anonymous
March 11, 2008
Hi there, I am unable to even get the IE8 beta to work. It installs ok, (or at least doesn't appear to pop up any error messages) but then once installed I am unable to run it, I click on the icon and the IE button starts to be added to the task bar but then stops and disappears and IE doesn't open at all and no error messages come up either, this is after the required reboot and the same happens after a extra reboot or so. I am running XP Pro SP2 and my machine meets all the requirments!! any ideas??? Cheers Seb,
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March 11, 2008
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Anonymous
March 11, 2008
@Seb: Have you tried running IE without add-ons?
Anonymous
March 11, 2008
I thought the IE8 beta was a great step in the right direction. I loved that you have implemented standards as a default setting. I also believe the domain highlighting is an excellent idea and could provide a lot of added security.
Anonymous
March 11, 2008
Unhandled exception at 0x04645418 in iexplore.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation writing location 0x00000010.
Anonymous
March 12, 2008
Can't log on to Microsoft Windows Update webpage... It's not work on IE8...
Anonymous
March 12, 2008
I have installed IE8 Beta on my machine (Win XP SP2). While trying to install March security updates I got error message telling that the browser is not supported and it adviced me to install latest version of IE. I thought atleast Microsoft websites will recognize the browser. I had to use 'Emulate IE7' option to install the updates.
Anonymous
March 12, 2008
Overall browsing experience is good but the browser needs to a bit fast. Are we planning to add 'Change Browser Skin' feature as available in Opera browser.
Anonymous
March 12, 2008
The screenshots of IE8 tease the potential users with an MSN Weather Webslice. WHERE IS IT??? puzzled CAN YOU PLEASE ENABLE IT ON WEATHER.MSN.COM???
Anonymous
March 13, 2008
Downloading it now... I hope it impresses me as much as the IE7 RC did (stayed with it until IE7 officially came out, I loved it).
Anonymous
March 13, 2008
With apologies to anyone who's already read this on my Webwatch e-mail list, I wanted to mention that beta 1 of Internet Explorer 8 is available. This is the product I work on at Microsoft so it is always nice when something I work on is available publicly.
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March 13, 2008
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March 13, 2008
Thee CSS3 property "opacity" has yet to be supported. Where is native SVG?!? (We may have to wait for IE ∞ for that one when IE has a browser share of 10 users.) -Timothy
Anonymous
March 14, 2008

Would like option to reopen open tabs when you close IE. This is a useful feature within IE7.

Would like text icon back for selection of text within a webpage.

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March 15, 2008
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Anonymous
March 15, 2008
here's #6 easy steps to take back the internet save microsoft, and make IE the best! Heres how in #6 easy steps http://hackinie.blogspot.com/
Anonymous
March 16, 2008
Now I use the new Internet Explorer and I am very happy! Great work!
Anonymous
March 16, 2008
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March 17, 2008
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March 17, 2008
aguy: I love flamebait! I'll play! <inserts quarter> IE7 is MUCH more secure than IE6, and IE8 is shaping up to be more secure than both IE7 AND Firefox 3. So, what exactly do you think is lacking in IE8 security??? Your turn... be specific!
Anonymous
April 07, 2008
The IE team is pleased to announce the availability of Chinese (Simplified) and German versions of Windows
Anonymous
April 10, 2008
With the release of IE8 Beta 1, I'm pleased to be able to talk about the first round of improved standards
Anonymous
July 30, 2008
As previously mentioned in the IE8 Beta Feedback post back in March, we have several ways to submit feedback
Anonymous
July 31, 2008
As previously mentioned in the IE8 Beta Feedback post back in March, we have several ways to submit feedback
Anonymous
August 04, 2008
For ISVs testing Internet Explorer 8 , the team has set up a way to file bugs directly with the team.
Anonymous
August 27, 2008
We’re excited to release IE8 Beta 2 today for public download. You can find it at http://www.microsoft
Anonymous
August 27, 2008
We’re excited to release IE8 Beta 2 today for public download. You can find it at http://www.microsoft.com/ie8
Anonymous
September 16, 2008
In August 2008, Dean announced the release of IE8 Beta 2 in English, Japanese, Chinese (Simplified),
Anonymous
November 19, 2008
The announcement of IE8 Beta 2 started an important and public phase of the product development cycle
Anonymous
November 19, 2008
Dean Hachamovitch, General Manager for Internet Explorer, has posted today on the IEBlog about what’s
Anonymous
November 19, 2008
Начало публичного тестирования IE8 Beta 2 ознаменовало важнейшую фазу цикла разработки ‑ получение отзывов
Anonymous
November 20, 2008
I guess they took my strident feedback about Beta 2 seriously: IE 8 pretty much breaks the Web at this
Anonymous
November 20, 2008
The announcement of IE8 Beta 2 started an important and public phase of the product development cycle
Anonymous
November 21, 2008
The Internet Explorer 8 team has announced that a release candidate (RC) will be available to the public
Anonymous
November 23, 2008
The Internet Explorer 8 team has announced that a release candidate (RC) will become available to the
Anonymous
December 05, 2008
The next public update of Internet Explorer 8 includes improvements to Compatibility View that help end-users
Anonymous
January 26, 2009
We're excited to make the IE8 Release Candidate available today for public download today in 25 languages
Anonymous
January 26, 2009
Hi Folks. Just got over my "early adopter" nerves and dowloaded IE8 RC1 . It was a pleasant experience
Anonymous
January 26, 2009
Релиз-кандидат-версия браузера Internet Explorer 8 стала доступна для скачивания на 25 языках для пользователей
Anonymous
January 26, 2009
IE8 Release Candidate is available for public download today in 25 languages for Windows Vista, Windows
Anonymous
January 27, 2009
Доступен Internet Explorer 8 Release Candidate Сегодня мы рады представить вашему вниманию IE8 Release
Anonymous
January 27, 2009
The first release candidate for Internet Explorer 8 has been released to the web. You can download it
Anonymous
February 05, 2009
Изменения взаимодействия с пользователем в IE8 RC1 После выпуска Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2, мы внимательно
Anonymous
February 12, 2009
As we've now entered the last major phase of our product cycle, we’d like to thank everyone for their
Anonymous
February 24, 2009
We wanted to let you know that an update was released earlier today that will improve Internet Explorer’s
Anonymous
February 25, 2009
We wanted to let you know that an update was released earlier today that will improve Internet Explorer
Anonymous
February 25, 2009
We wanted to let you know that an update was released earlier today that will improve Internet Explorer
Anonymous
February 26, 2009
Спасибо бета - тестерам IE8 В связи с выходом IE8 RC1 команда разработчиков IE хочет поблагодарить своих
Anonymous
March 23, 2009
Thank you to everyone who has provided the IE Team with feedback on IE8. Your dedication to making this
Anonymous
April 16, 2009
RE: обратная связь в бета-тестировании IE8 Спасибо всем, кто направлял свои отзывы команде разработчиков

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Would like option to reopen open tabs when you close IE. This is a useful feature within IE7.

Would like text icon back for selection of text within a webpage.

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